Randy Chortkoff is the harmonica
player, movie producer and promoter who is the
driving force behind Delta Groove Productions.
Within a very short time indeed the label has
made a huge impact on the Blues industry with
a string of scorching CDs from mainly the cream
of Southern Californian musicians. Big glossy
adverts and great distribution has given them
an arrived stature within the blink of an eye.
Blues Matters! went straight to the top to get
to know more about this man on a mission…
BM: Randy give us some early
background on yourself, particularly stuff that
shaped you into the multi-faceted Blues guy
you are?
Randy: Well, the first music
I heard that had anything to do with Blues was
in my dad’s record collection. He was
a blue-collar guy, a carpet layer, but his big
passion in life was jazz music. He used to see
Louis Armstrong and guys like that every time
they came through Los Angeles, and in fact he
got to be friends with Louis, and would bring
him to the house, so I met him too when I was
a kid. Anyway, I heard a lot of my dad’s
records, and it must have made an impression
because as I got a little older, I found myself
drawn to black music, R&B, Blues, soul whatever
it was called at the time. In the mid-60s when
I was a teenager I started going around to some
of the clubs in LA where guys like Jimmy Reed
and Lightnin’ Hopkins would play when
they came through town, mainly the Ash Grove,
and around that time I really got hooked on
the sound of the harp. So I started going out
and seeing harp players whenever I could. I
didn’t know that much about it then, I
just liked the sound. I got into Paul Butterfield,
some of the British invasion guys who were playing
Bluesy stuff, and I started playing the harp
myself, emulating those sounds. In the late-60s
I spent some time in San Francisco and there
was a lot of great Blues up there, and it just
kind of snowballed. I’ve got to give credit
to Rod Piazza too. He wasn’t really known
outside of the West Coast scene back then, but
he’s been at it as long as guys like Butterfield
and Musselwhite, and it was Rod who really turned
me on to some of the really deep Blues, in particular
Little Walter. He would tell me which records
to buy, and make me tapes of things that weren’t
available.
Do you have a formal
education in cinema photography, or is it something
you acquired by experience?
My background is in sales and the financial
arena. I had absolutely no experience with the
technical side of movie making before I got
involved in the business side. But I’ve
gained a lot of experience in it just by being
around lots of veterans who really are masters
at it, especially my very talented partner Mars
Callahan. Mars is a great authority and teacher
in all the technical and creative parts of movie
making.
Being an Executive Film
Producer and Music Supervisor puts you in a
prime position into getting Blues music to mainstream
audiences I would think…
I sure hope so. I’m doing my best!
You must be an adventurous
guy by the amount of different job descriptions
you have in your CV…
I’ve always been somewhat of a risk taker,
willing to try things I have an interest in.
I’ve got wide range of interests, but
I’ve got to admit I’m getting a
little tired. I’m concentrating on making
movies and music right now.
Out of all the many
endeavors you have been involved with is putting
on gigs the hardest job?
Absolutely not! For me it’s never been
that tough, and it’s definitely the most
rewarding. But I take my hat off to promoters
and producers of live music, because there’s
always that fear that people won’t show
up. I’ve been very fortunate - I’ve
done lots of shows, and I don’t know how
I did it, but I’ve always managed to pack
the house. I sometimes had to pull some tricky
stuff to do it, but in the end the audience
and the artists have been happy, and that’s
the ultimate reward. I commend anyone who does
it, and successfully, because I know it’s
not always easy. But for me it’s not hard
work, because it’s something I really
enjoy doing.
Was Delta Groove Productions
brought about from the need to put your long
held ideas into practice?
Not exactly I’ve always loved producing
records…over the years I’ve been
good at getting them placed with substantial
labels, but a couple of years ago I had two
projects I’d produced, The Mannish Boys
and Kirk Fletcher, and no labels were able to
step up and make a deal to put them out. So
out of frustration I decided to put them out
myself - that’s how the Delta Groove label
came about. Of course I was learning as I go,
and still am. I’d never thought seriously
about starting a label until then. I thought
about maybe opening a club or something, but
eventually figured if you can’t beat 'em,
join ‘em.
I guess like many of
the great individualistic Blues venues, if you
hadn’t had a great passion for this music,
your right mind would never have allowed you
to get into it?
You’re absolutely right. It’s all
about passion for the music. No one would start
a Blues label as based on what a great investment
it is.
Are you surprised at
how far DGP have come in such a short time?
Yes, pleasantly… I attribute that to the
incredible staff, the talented musicians, and
my relationships with the musicians. It really
is like a family, there’s definitely a
feel that we’re all in this together,
and I think that comes across.
What epitomizes DGP,
and makes it tick?
Passion for the music, period.
Are The Mannish Boys
akin to the Memphis Jug band was, in that the
line-up is very loose?
It’s not that loose, actually. The changes
are mainly based on the fact that Kirk has a
steady gig with the Fabulous Thunderbirds, so
we brought in Kid Ramos, and Frank Goldwasser
became a dad and wanted to settle down a little,
so we brought in Rusty Zinn. We didn’t
plan it that way, but out of necessity that’s
the way it worked out. But the basic idea has
been the same from day one; The Mannish Boys
are a revue, like the Johnny Otis Revue. I wanted
to create a show that keeps people entertained
by bringing out one surprise after another,
and showcases each one but leaves the audience
wanting more. Finis Tasby, Johnny Dyer, and
when he’s available, Leon Blue have provided
that, and of course Rusty and Kid bring a lot
to the table too.
After a run of Californian
based artist’s electric albums, DGP came
out with a tasty acoustic album from a guy from
near St. Louis – John Long. What initiated
this?
It goes back to Al Blake, who was the singer
and harp player with the Hollywood Fats Band,
and has since joined the Delta Groove family
with The Hollywood Blue Flames. I’ve known
Al for a long time, and a few years ago he told
me about this guy from Missouri who is like
a reincarnation of a pre-war Bluesman. He gave
me a copy of a home made CD that John Long was
selling off the bandstand, and I was completely
blown away. This guy was 100% for real. It wasn’t
an act – it’s really who he is.
And I was shocked that he hadn’t ever
been properly recorded. I figured I had no choice.
I had to document this guy.
How instrumental were
you in Billy Boy Arnold’s comeback?
I’ve always been a fan of his Vee Jay
records. I love those hypnotic grooves, the
way all of his songs tell a distinct story,
and of course he’s a wonderful singer
and harp player. I was doing these annual Little
Walter tribute shows at different venues around
the Los Angeles area, bringing in Chicago guys
who were associated with Little Walter…at
one of these shows I was talking to a movie
producer in the audience, and he told me that
Billy Boy was still alive and well in Chicago.
I didn’t really know anything about it,
since I hadn’t heard anything new from
him in years, and as far as I know he hadn’t
been touring or anything like that. So through
some friends in Chicago, I got in touch with
him and brought him out to do the Little Walter
tribute show. We had assembled a great band
of people who really knew how to back a harp
player, all of them long time fans of Billy
Boy, and it just seemed natural to take everyone
into the studio for a recording session. Billy
Boy was really passionate about it, and that
came through on the recordings. I think it had
been a long time since he’d put out a
record in the US, and everything just came together,
and I was fortunate enough to get a label, Alligator,
to put it out. So Alligator did the smart thing
and marketed it as Billy Boy’s comeback.
Like Fred James of Nashville,
and Bob Corritore of Arizona you have been involved
in getting veteran musicians back out there,
and regaining there recognition. Tell us about
that, and if there is still work to be done
in that area?
I’ve always loved the traditional stuff,
and I admire Corritore, who is a good friend.
He and I are on the same page musically. I know
that in order to keep the label alive I have
to put out music that has wide appeal, but a
big part of my reason for doing this was so
I could record some of the guys I loved…
I’ve been fortunate to be able to do that.
But of course there’s always work to be
done in that area. There aren’t many of
the legends left, but there are lots of people
who are part of the direct chain from the last
generation to the next generation, and there
are still people out there making some great
Blues.
I take it you are a
Little Walter Jacobs fan as you organized many
annual tribute shows.
Yes. As far as Blues harp is concerned, all
roads lead back to Little Walter.
The West Coast is re-known
for the excellence of its retro swing Blues,
but what is there to prevent stagnation and
the scene falling from grace?
The West Coast, and that means all the way from
Canada to down to Mexico, is a treasure trove
of talent. There is so much going on besides
the retro swing sound, even though that stuff
gets a lot of the attention. I love it, but
there is so much more and there always has been.
There’s never been just one West Coast
sound. Some of the greatest Bluesmen of all
time, guys from Texas and Chicago and Mississippi
and Louisiana and everywhere else, made their
homes on the West Coast, and there are generations
of Blues players who took what they were doing
and have built on it and developed it. I’ve
recorded some of the retro style Blues, but
Delta Groove has recorded other stuff too, and
I plan on continuing to branch out.
What is there left for
Randy Chortkoff to do and achieve?
I’ve always had a dream of having the
coolest Blues club on the planet. A great vibe
and great music - the kind of things that first
drew me into this music. I hope to achieve some
more success with music and movies, but I’d
really like to turn more people on to music
that has soul and feeling, and help create resurgence
in the music I’m so passionate about.
I want to do what I can to keep this music alive
for the next generation.